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Originally Posted by rvoll
Can you show me where the OEM recommends 225's vs 215's on 7.5 rims?
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http://www.trdparts.jp/english/86_pe...rts_wheel.html
https://www.subaru.co.jp/en/news/arc...e_2_91012.html
Toyota even collaborated with Dunlop on a 225/40R18 tire with "Direzza II 86" stamped on the sidewall.
http://tirepro-r.com/blog/2012/09/86.html
https://toyota.jp/customize/86/14r-60/performance/ is the 100-unit limited production 14R60 with an essentially stock powertrain but this wheel/tire package:
（Fr 18×8.5J inset 30 / Rr 18×8.5J inset 46)ブリヂストン製専用タイヤ ”RE-11A 3.3T” （235/40-R18）
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Originally Posted by rvoll
Wheels carry something called "tires".
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There you go being pretentious again. Right when I saw that I skimmed through and quickly realized whatever verbose BS you wrote after isn't worth reading lol. Tires are wildly variable. 245 wide models fit more flush than other 265 models. Curb guards give you extra mm of flushness. It's a wash. You can't fudge wheel specs, though, down to the millimeter.
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Originally Posted by rvoll
I'll be a little more flush than you.
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Doubt you'll be more flush than my 235(F) / 265(R) tires on 18x8.5(F) / 18x9.5(R) wheels (Cayman-inspired as I mentioned earlier). I conservatively recommended 18x8 to be considerate to your particular interest in half-inch minutae because that makes all the difference in wheels for non-racing purposes.
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Originally Posted by rvoll
And again, I think your wheels look great!!!! I liked them so much I did a search to see the price. I wouldn't have done that otherwise. If they would have been in the price range of the TRD wheel, I might well have been convinced. However, they cost twice as much and that is hard to justify given that they would both be almost just as flush....
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They're not even that expensive for what you get relative to direct competition and the wheel industry as a whole. Priced quite competitively, actually. Other high performance forged wheels go for $5-$10k a set. Same for VIP/luxury and those put a damper in performance. OEM Ford Mustang wheels that owners crave are $4k... each ($16k a set). That's my perspective of the wheel market.
And "forged" has varying methods and levels of quality. I've seen a forged wheel from a known high end brand break more easily than cast wheels due to unsound manufacturing techniques. Can't speak to the TRDs but TRD doesn't manufacture forged wheels. They contract suppliers. The TRD SF2 is forged and costs more than TWS (~$1k apiece on Amazon) because it's TRD branded but supplied by TWS. I doubt TWS makes your TRD wheel because it's a budget wheel and looks it. The kind of wheel Release Series 2.0 owners sell for a few hundred because it's a stock wheel (which you may want to hunt on). The Titan 7 and XXR 527F wheels look insanely better on a similar budget and nowhere near black in color.
Regarding the original topic of your thread, I see almost no progress. This thread is a dead end the way it's going. Just a lot of highly philosophical noise (from my practical perspective). I'm still not clear what matters to you. How millimeters and half inches ruin performance? Need us to convince you to buy a budget stock wheel that looks like what you specifically don't want? I suggest you post on other wheel threads if you haven't already instead of bogging in argumentative minutiae. People with more knowledge and less noise still hang around this forum. The noisy ones have moved onto the Facebook 86 enthusiast page.