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ermax · 03-30-2018, 03:20 AM

The typical complaint about the clutch is it’s to light not that it’s too heavy. There is a helper spring that can be removed to make it more stiff. I guess you could call the tranny notchy. It has a very distinct click into each gear. Not sloppy and mushy like your typical FWD cable shifter. The only other tranny I would rank over the BRZ tranny is the S2000 but not by much. What really makes some manuals easier to learn on are those with lots of low end torque. My IS300 for example can start in 3rd without even touching the throttle. But the IS300 also has notoriously laggy DBW so it very hard to drive smooth. The BRZ isn’t laggy and has just enough low end torque to be fairly easy to learn. I just thought my 16 year old daughter to drive it and it didn’t take her long to be smooth. The gearing is very short so you end up shifting a lot. If this is your dedicated fun car then this should be a pro rather than a con.

I have 5 kids. 16, 13, 12, 11 and 5 months. The baby seat fits and my wife can still ride with me. My sons fit in the back passenger side no problem but can’t fit behind me because I’m 6’2. The convertible stroller fits in the truck. So does my jogger as long as I detach the wheels. I have a Suburban and IS300 for family driving. The FRS sits most of the weekend.

If you get a 2015 or newer you shouldn’t have many problems. The coil packs are mostly a problem with people who track their cars where they run it hard to 15-20mins and then park it with the bay all heat soaked. The TOB is the other problem. It was revised on the 2017 but don’t think it’s been in circulation long enough to know if it will last any longer. I replaced my TOB at 85k with the 2017 part. The TOB is covered under the 36k warranty. The car also makes all kinds of noises. Almost daily you will see a new thread on this forum about strange noises. You get used to it. It isn’t a practical car. More practical than an S2000 or Miata though. Drive one and that will probably convince you to buy it. Turn off the TC (hold the TC button for 5 secs) and do a graceful U turn. [emoji3]

03-30-2018, 03:20 AM	#8
ermax Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2017 Drives: 2022 BRZ Limited Silver Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 2,533 Thanks: 883 Thanked 2,049 Times in 1,191 Posts Mentioned: 68 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	The typical complaint about the clutch is it’s to light not that it’s too heavy. There is a helper spring that can be removed to make it more stiff. I guess you could call the tranny notchy. It has a very distinct click into each gear. Not sloppy and mushy like your typical FWD cable shifter. The only other tranny I would rank over the BRZ tranny is the S2000 but not by much. What really makes some manuals easier to learn on are those with lots of low end torque. My IS300 for example can start in 3rd without even touching the throttle. But the IS300 also has notoriously laggy DBW so it very hard to drive smooth. The BRZ isn’t laggy and has just enough low end torque to be fairly easy to learn. I just thought my 16 year old daughter to drive it and it didn’t take her long to be smooth. The gearing is very short so you end up shifting a lot. If this is your dedicated fun car then this should be a pro rather than a con. I have 5 kids. 16, 13, 12, 11 and 5 months. The baby seat fits and my wife can still ride with me. My sons fit in the back passenger side no problem but can’t fit behind me because I’m 6’2. The convertible stroller fits in the truck. So does my jogger as long as I detach the wheels. I have a Suburban and IS300 for family driving. The FRS sits most of the weekend. If you get a 2015 or newer you shouldn’t have many problems. The coil packs are mostly a problem with people who track their cars where they run it hard to 15-20mins and then park it with the bay all heat soaked. The TOB is the other problem. It was revised on the 2017 but don’t think it’s been in circulation long enough to know if it will last any longer. I replaced my TOB at 85k with the 2017 part. The TOB is covered under the 36k warranty. The car also makes all kinds of noises. Almost daily you will see a new thread on this forum about strange noises. You get used to it. It isn’t a practical car. More practical than an S2000 or Miata though. Drive one and that will probably convince you to buy it. Turn off the TC (hold the TC button for 5 secs) and do a graceful U turn. [emoji3]