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Originally Posted by abraxis

Completely disagree. That Camaro would still weigh 200lbs more and be a much bigger and less nimble profile for a sports car. Yeah you can put a good suspension and grippy rubber on a lead sled drag car, but that doesn't make it fun to drive or necessarily fastest. The Mustang 350 is even heavier still at 3,800 lbs!! That's a difference of two NFL Offensive Linemen duct taped to your car....

Some of us actually appreciate that the key to a great sports car is less weight, not just adding cheap power.

Yeah and I'm one of those people. I've never owned a sports car that weighs more than 3000 lb. But given the choice between more weight w/manual transmision or less weight with auto I will take the weight. And I'll also take a 3800 lb car with a screaming V8 engine over a Supra with it's engine lifted from a 240i.

I've never owned a domestic car but you can't deny the goodness of the Mustang/Camaro

Originally Posted by gymratter

J&D ratings don't mean much if you're planning to own the vehicle more than it's lease/warranty period. BMW's big problems seem to occur soon thereafter. I have nothing bad to say about a BMW ownership experience when a car is new. But that goes without saying really, in 2018 one would expect any car to be trouble free for the first 3-5 years.