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Old 03-05-2018, 11:40 AM   #131
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Originally Posted by ermax View Post
How is it bad.. they had a few known issues that can be catastrophic in the long run. The transient ignition retard table was incomplete causing detonation on big transients which eventually leads to DI seal failures which leads to more detonation. This was fixed with software in 2014 but most dealers refuse to flash 2013s with the 2014 rom even though there a a TSB specifically telling them to. I got my 2013 with 80K miles on it and it still had the original early 2013 flash on it. Rather than convince a dealer to flash my car I got a Tactix and did it myself.

Just because you have a 2013 with no problems doesn't mean it's bad advice to avoid the 2013. Knowing what I know now I surely would have avoided the 2013. If someone is contemplating a brand new BRZ vs a used one I doubt the price difference between a 2013 and a 2015 is going to be a hard choice.
Can you support that statement?
I am much more willing to bet that most dealers have done the reflash to any car where it was warranted. As I have said before any 13 that has lasted this long has either had the fixes applied or did not suffer from the know issues in the first place.
I personally however agree that early 13s should remain a last choice not a first. They may all be fine at this point and there are many, many people driving them that never saw any of the problems but like any first production runs of a vehicle there is an increased risk of something going wrong. Not saying that anything will but simply that increased risk is not acceptable to me.
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