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I test drove the 2017 with PP yesterday. Was adequate in power, that doesn't bother me. Even driving around in the 2000-4000 rev range was fine. It's not like this car needs to be 4000+ revs to be moving. I'd say 90% of the time we are driving we are constrained by other people in front of us. I love the way the BRZ feels but I don't fit as comfortably as I'd like. But that may not be a deal breaker because the BRZ is still a great value.

Anyway just to see what's what. I was going to drive a Mustang, but where I was driving the BRZ was just 5 minutes from a Porsche dealer so I dropped in there instead.

So went to look at a more direct coupe competitor in size (not price) the base Cayman (non S). I'm just going by the Porsche website for the weight. But this was a PDK transmission.

Weight 3010 (lbs) but heavier with optional equipment so it's let's call it 200-300 lbs heavier than the BRZ (6MT).

The Cayman is six inches longer (negligible difference) has a 4 inch shorter wheelbase around the same height and width as the BRZ. Cayman had more than double the trunk space but no rear seats so depending on how you look at it it's more or less practical. I'd say BRZ is more room for stuff but the Cayman has more locked space, meaning not in the open like if you had stuff in your back seat area. They both fit me ok for driving position, but the Cayman had more adjustable seats so was able to fit just a speck more comfortably.

Cayman power 2.0L flat 4 turbo:
300hp @6500 rpm
280 TQ @1950-4500 rpm

BRZ
205hp @7000 rpm
156 TQ @6400 rpm

also note the Cayman has better (summer tires) and larger
BRZ 214/45/18 (f/r)
Cayman 235/45/18 (f) 265/45/18 (r)

The grip at the street is much better for the Cayman. No doubt it has more weight on the rear end but also the tires are clearly better and larger.