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Originally Posted by Tcoat

You are the one stating an absolute. It can not be made without proof.

No, I'm saying there's no limitation (with the stipulations I put forth in the post you're quoting). You keep telling me I'm wrong because there is a limitation, but you've failed to point to the actual limitation and/or what it is that's likely being exceeded.

Originally Posted by venturaII

No, perspective is what opinions are based on, e.g, it looks blue to me, but grey to someone else. Emissions certifications (or any other defined standards, for that matter) don't work that way.

That you would think that I think emissions certs work that way proves my point about the reading comprehension. Thanks for the help.

Originally Posted by venturaII

However I do agree that there's a profound lack of comprehension with regard to this topic in this thread.

I know. Disappointing isn't it?

Originally Posted by Tcoat

I even attached a document that very clearly laid out the requirements for the US.

Right, but you don't know exactly what it is about those requirements that apparently makes me wrong. You just seem to know that it's in there somewhere. So again, show your work.

Originally Posted by Tcoat

The misconception seems to come from people thinking the testing is the same as the roadside sniffer where they take a quick sample, compare it to a State maximum allowed number and say yes or no. It is not that simple.

Sure, it's not that simple, but what comes out of the tailpipe is a major factor.

Originally Posted by mav1178

So you want to throw away tangent discussion,

You can keep on it if you want, doesn't change anything though so I thought it a bit irrelevant.

Originally Posted by mav1178

but bring out other new passenger cars that generate higher emissions, even though the point of this thread is to discuss why Subaru didn't put the revised components onto AT + EU-spec cars.

Yes, because that demonstrates the possibility that a car can both emit more pollution than a twin and still be Euro 6 compliant. That's relevant to my point.

Originally Posted by Prodigalson

Car & Driver article suggests that the HP discrepancy is due to NVH issues (as admittedly unlikely as it sounds):

Buyers who order an automatic transmission will have to make do with the previous 200-hp engine and 4.10:1 final drive; engineers tell us the automatic cars could not clear pass-by noise regulations during downshifts with the new engine. To our ears, the engines sound pretty much identical.

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...aru-brz-review

But tcoat said it's emissions regulations!!!??? He even has a lengthy document!