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Old 12-29-2017, 12:27 AM   #982
Vizard424
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Innovate LC-2 ECM Logging

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Originally Posted by Jesse36m3 View Post
I'm thinking about going with a p3 gauge then using an Innovative LC-2 to feed the gauge's aux input wideband AFR.. Then program the other LC-2 output into ecutek for logging.

Wondering if anybody else has gone down this route and how it turned out?
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Originally Posted by nelsmar View Post
Ive done this multiple times before. Talk with your tuner first. They might not even care about logging your wideband. I personally trust my own wideband and not user installed. I have a post somewhere talking about the accuracy of the OEM wideband, and showing logs against my innovate wideband showing how close it is. I tune these cars and I don't even use a wideband on my own car. Its "close enough". I have a P3 gauge but I just use it for oil / coolant temps. I have boost cut and closed loop fueling and i don't need to be staring at my AFR while I drive... I need to be looking at the road. =)
Not a tuner but in my experience this tends to not work out too well. Did exactly the Innovate setup on my old boosted RX-8 and my tuner flipped out on me apparently the Innovate unit (older LSU 4.2 sensor/controller btw) has a slower polling rate than what is reported by the ECM...he had gaps in the data. Not only that but the position of the wideband put it in a slightly different position than he was used to and was not getting the adjustments he was expecting from over the air tuning.

I'm pretty sure if you can position the sensor to have better than OEM location (not sure if it's possible) and tuning on a dyno so they can directly measure changes on the fly it might work. Keep in mind tho that the OEM sensor is designed to not require service/calibrations throughout its life span. One thing I hated about my Innovate unit was that it required constant air cals to maintain accuracy
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