[Dragonitti]

Originally Posted by blur

I'm not sure what your trying to say?
http://speedhunters.com/archive/2011...011-scion.aspx
Thats what I'm referring to.

That's exactly the same people I in the video, Papadakis Racing is the same people who built Tanner Foust tC. Perhaps the video might have confused you, because they kept showing Tanner's tC. However, his tC is not a 2011. The 2011 one is what they are working on, which Tanner will not be driving as he is pursuing new driving aspects of his career as mentioned, thus Aasbo was chosen to replace him to pilot the 2011 tC.

Originally Posted by blur

And since every answer I have to your points is similar, I'll group it . . . you call it being different, but how many Tcs are currently in (big) motorsports . . . ?

Let's see,

Tanner Foust/Fred Aasbo - RockStar Scion tC - Formula D
Ken Gushi - Scion Racing Scion tC - Formula D
Dan Gardner - Jackson Dawson Racing - WERC Endurance Race
Sam Stout - Jackson Dawson Racing - WERC Endurance Race
Gary Sheen - Marshal Pruett Motorsports - SCCA/NASA Endurance Racing
Chris Rado - World Racing - FWD Unlimited Time Attack
Chris Rado - World Racing - AWD Unlimited Time Attack
Ross Miller - PTuning - FWD Modified Time Attack

These are the ones I can think off the top of my head. Everyone listed are either Two time champs back to back, or podium finishers. Aside from the drifting tC's, all the others listed are Champions in their class.

That list does not include the privateers such as myself or the Pro Drag racing cars that adorn the Scion badge (as the pro drag cars don't run the 2az).

That list is just the popular ones. I know a couple of other privateers who have placed podium finishes in Redline Time Attack. I placed 4th myself under N/A power and 6th overall for the season. How many Scion's must there be in order for you to deem worthy?

Originally Posted by blur

And nearly all of them are drivetrain converted.

Let me guess, they all have V8's in them to make them fast too right? Come on dude, don't be a noob on this. Only the drifters are RWD converted bro. I'll respect you as long as you don't make absurd assumptions as you just did.

Originally Posted by blur

Point is, its just unnecessary, they're not being different(I see a scion every time I watch anything), it's not preference and your completely changing what the car was intended to do. Theres barely any benefit over the cost. Its completely useless . . . unless someones paying you to do it. And thats why its fake.

So, it's fake for people to win championships? Ok buddy...I guess when they built a Miata it was specifically made to be a Time Attack/Drifter....not likely. People just saw the potential and now they have their own class (Spec Miata).

Originally Posted by blur

In a perfect world, FD wouldnt be about tube chassis purpose built drift cars with drivetrain swaps, engine swaps etc. These cars barely resemble their counterparts. Scions not the only one to do it, but it is the most obvious one... I mean, I dont think a guy just said, "hey, lets take a scion shell, and put a nascar v8 and drift it; for fun". No, its for $$ from sponsors. And that upsets me.

FD aint the only sanctioned Drifting organization. Do you even compete in any motorsports? Hard to be a critique about something when you aren't even apart of it. Support you local drift events if you want to make a statement. I was pissed when RTA moved all their events to the West Coast. Instead of just voicing my opinion on the forums, I looked forward to joining NASA/SCCA Time Trials.

Originally Posted by blur

Preference can only go so far. Calling using Tc for preference is blasphemy.

Really? Wow...ok. I explained to you Pro Drivers go where the $'s are. For enthusiast like myself....there is no $ driving behind the machine I CHOSE to build. It's blasphemy for you to tell me what my own driving motivation is.