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Old 11-09-2017, 10:19 AM   #10
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Originally Posted by churchx View Post
"2nd gear down to 1st", remember, there is safeguard built in for 1st, for it to be doable easy only at very low speeds. With some well performed rev-match maybe one can get in 1st at higher rpms too, but in general that is one thing that is not fault but feature of all even not that new cars. After all, the torque at 1st is highest and overrev at downshift to 1st due gearing can get out of range easiest, so to lessen possibility of killing tranny or engine there is that safeguard built in. I'm sure, that if you'll wait speed to drop to some 10-15kmh, it should be much easier to get in 1st. This particular thing is not about clutch drag, but about intentional gearbox construction functionality just like there is rpm cutout in ecu code. When i was young, i managed few times on my 2spd moped switch down to 1st instead of neutral when i moved at max speed for 2nd. Engine lived through .. but it surely didn't prolong it's life to have briefly double rpms past redline
I understand 1st gear is only for getting started. I never downshift to 1st unless it's under 5mph. I don't get how if I'm at a stop and try to go from netrual to 1st it will block me out and have to keep going back and forth trying to force in.

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