[Dragonitti]

Originally Posted by blur

Basically your telling me it's all about watching rather than participating. Thinking "yea, the engine block from my tc is in that beast" kind of thing. But knowing you can never actually attempt the things they do.

It's Drifting professionally, not many people can aspire or have the desire to go to that level to begin with, no matter what they drive. It's an extremely expensive sport to get into. I use to drift with my 350z before selling it. I will do some with the FT, but don't see myself turning pro with it.

A 350z enthusiast isn't naive enough to think he is going to swap in a Titan V8 into his 350z, gut/cage it, install a hydo-hand brake, dual brakes on the rear...etc, etc...and turn into a pro drifter no more so than a Scion enthusiast turning into a Pro drifter. If you have some idea that this is only a Scion thing, you are mistaken. All the FD top cars are well above anything the normal fan looking from the outside-in, will get to aspire to. You don't get those types of things until you have put in a lot of seat time in your average 240sx at local drift meets. FD is no longer a grassroots event. Takes big $, you would be stupid to think you are going to just walk into FD and be successful.

Originally Posted by blur

We cant compare FWD cars to RWD cars. Especially in straight line performance. Im asking . . . TC converted to RWD Vs stock GEN 2.0t, why spend 2x the cost for something to get nearly the same result (minus warantee among other things) BTW. 2.0T shares the engine with the evo x, are you saying that engine is weaker than your Tc too? lol

Why can't you compare? A fast car is a fast car no? What does a 10sec FWD car have in common with a 10sec RWD car? They both run 10secs. Anyhow, I highly doubt you will have the same results building a RWD tC and trying to compare it to a stock Gen 2.0T. That car is pretty heavy. Weight, gear ratio, power...all come into play. If you are speaking generally in terms of same results as being..."they both can get sideways", then again, it's a matter of preference. Do you want to build something, or do you want to buy it. I know the 2.0T shares it's engine with the Evo X, however they are not internally the same. And I'm saying the 2.0T from what I've seen, I am not impressed with it.

A person doing a RWD conversion on a tC is hardly concerned with their warranty....lol. I boosted my second tC after 3 months of having it. I Don't care about warranty.

Originally Posted by blur

Almost negligible. Tc weights 400lbs less than GEN; with all the modification, it will about even out.

And you know this from what data you have collected? They would be removing the components from the front and re-installing components that came for the rear. If anything, the weight difference would still come out to be the same in difference between the two.

Originally Posted by blur

I asked.. why is it the only FWD to RWD conversion in FD? Why don't we see civics drifting, and other FWDs being drivetrain converted to drift? I'm familiar with the rules, I see you mention them all the time. And by the money spent, I mean just to allow the TC to drift your looking at 15-20K. Why not just buy a RWD car such as the genesis, or if you have that cash, say, a Supra? lol

I answered you. FD RULES bud. No Civic has an AWD chassis, thus does not meet FD rules.

Again, preference. If I or any other person wanted to spend 15k+ on a conversion, it's his/her money to do so. If they want to be different, who's to say they are wrong and you are right? This is no different than asking someone why they build a Civic motor and boost it vs just buying an Evo. Or why they modified their Evo to extreme rather than just buying an R35.

And FYI....there was an exhibition run at the Atlanta FD round where a guy had a RWD Integra.

Originally Posted by blur

And it's obvious that you completely deflected my questions. Yea, because every car that doesnt meet the rules gets to drift in FD season after season LOL. Oh and, you thought wrong. Now, back to my question. Please answer this time. Hell, I'll even copy and paste for you. "But then why buy it to drift it in the first place? Why doesnt Fredric Aasbo keep the Supra he drove over the new tube chassis scion he's getting built? After all, wouldnt that be cheaper and easier to maintain during the season? Are you honestly going to quote me and tell me that converting a drivetrain and dumping tons of cash into a FWD car designed for cool kids is better than a tried and proven platform?"

Deflect your question? How so? I'm not following you, I answered you. Why don't you ask Aasbo, do I look like an Aasbo representative? He has his reasons. tC could be lighter than the Supra, pack the same HP out of the 4cly engine (lighter than the I6 or whatever being run in the Supra). Not saying it can make MORE HP than the Supra, just saying the amount necessary for Drifting it could be ran the same in the 4banger and be in a lighter car. Again, that's just my assumption. You nor I have an answer as to what Aasbo's game plan is.

A driver's main goal is to just drive and not have to worry about financial burdens or mechanical ones....thus getting a team and someone to foot the bill, you will go where there is an open door. And I surely don't surely hope you don't believe Scion is the only company throwing money to drivers. Ford, GM....toss plenty of money into FD.

Would it be proper to call it a forum full of noobs then? lol (coming from the absence of care for the FT86)

Thanks for quick reply

Then that would equate to calling every forum other than a dedicated FT-86 forum, a forum full of noobs. Since your definition was that they had one thread in it about the FT. How many threads do you think there are over on Infiniti FX, Lexus, Camry, Corolla...etc. forums. It doesn't have to have a crap ton of FT-86 talk on a forum to deem it worthy bro. Not to mention, but there are like 10 Scion enthusiast related forums out there. I'm sure you visited every one of them right?

Originally Posted by blur

btw. I remember playing forza and converting the Tc to RWD, haha . . . it was a fun little car after that.

GT5 > Forza