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Originally Posted by Dragonitti

If you were going down that road, I would imagine you wouldn't be doing amateur grass roots drifting at that point. No Scion enthusiast I know, appreciate the Drift cars because they are RWD's, but because they use the same powerplant that comes from the factory.

Basically your telling me it's all about watching rather than participating. Thinking "yea, the engine block from my tc is in that beast" kind of thing. But knowing you can never actually attempt the things they do.

There is none other than preference. Building something vs Buying something. . . Gen 2.0T is slow on boost as much as a stock tC (in some examples, it's slower). Haven't been impressed with that car in the least bit. Here is a car that's touted as a performance/sports car, yet it's slower than a car that's touted as a sporty economy everyday getter.

We cant compare FWD cars to RWD cars. Especially in straight line performance. Im asking . . . TC converted to RWD Vs stock GEN 2.0t, why spend 2x the cost for something to get nearly the same result (minus warantee among other things) BTW. 2.0T shares the engine with the evo x, are you saying that engine is weaker than your Tc too? lol

A RWD tC probably would still weigh less than a 2.0T. And I feel the motor in the tC is more potent on boost than the 2.0T is even with an upgraded turbo on it..

Almost negligible. Tc weights 400lbs less than GEN; with all the modification, it will about even out.

FD Rules . . .

I asked.. why is it the only FWD to RWD conversion in FD? Why don't we see civics drifting, and other FWDs being drivetrain converted to drift? I'm familiar with the rules, I see you mention them all the time. And by the money spent, I mean just to allow the TC to drift your looking at 15-20K. Why not just buy a RWD car such as the genesis, or if you have that cash, say, a Supra? lol

See answers above. It's obvious that you were not aware that the tC meets the rules. I think you had the impression like many, that Scion just tossed some cash FD's way in order to compete. But the car is within the rules of FD, not because they gave them $ to be the only one.

And it's obvious that you completely deflected my questions. Yea, because every car that doesnt meet the rules gets to drift in FD season after season LOL. Oh and, you thought wrong. Now, back to my question. Please answer this time. Hell, I'll even copy and paste for you. "But then why buy it to drift it in the first place? Why doesnt Fredric Aasbo keep the Supra he drove over the new tube chassis scion he's getting built? After all, wouldnt that be cheaper and easier to maintain during the season? Are you honestly going to quote me and tell me that converting a drivetrain and dumping tons of cash into a FWD car designed for cool kids is better than a tried and proven platform?"

I don't get why you would think Scion would be "numb" to having a sports car when they pump money into Motorsports as much as anyone else does currently (besides like F1 or something). So, I highly doubt that your prediction of fuel economy, boxy shape and safeness is accurate. No automotive manufacture is stuck to one train of thought and that's it. The point of a product line is to have something for everyone. In Scions case, I think it's something for every "young" one.

If only it actually worked that way. If it sells, it goes out for production, point blank. And the crowd we're looking at isnt exactly interested in performance.

Last part...no need to address. There are noobs in every forum.

Would it be proper to call it a forum full of noobs then? lol (coming from the absence of care for the FT86)

Thanks for quick reply

btw. I remember playing forza and converting the Tc to RWD, haha . . . it was a fun little car after that.