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Old 10-07-2017, 03:55 AM   #1923
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Originally Posted by Irace86.2.0 View Post
Well, to that argument I reply with the fact that all the engineers would have to do to turn a DCT that doesn't shift into a full automatic that shifts without the driver's input is to write some code for the computer to automatically shift, since everything is in place for the transmission to operate independent of the driver.
Thank you for proving my point. That everything is NOT there, otherwise why would you have to 'add' anything whether it's code, actuators, etc? The absence of these 'additions' means it can not function as an automatic unless it is altered or changed. I mean, I could go buy a kit or some parts and add them to a clutch pedal transmission and make them behave like a button or paddle shifted semi or auto as well.

In the engineering world clutch pedal transmissions, SMTs and DCTs share a common family heritage and design language that is completely unlike automatic transmissions such as hydramatics that use planetary gear sets and torque converters, or even more recent CVTs. The first three were designed WITH the intent of the driver manually selecting gears; convenience features added later. The latter two designed to operate precisely WITHOUT driver input for the sake of either convenience or optimum efficiency and mileage. Think of a biological tree where automatics branches off from the stick shift and form two distinct species yet both continue to evolve independent of each other into more modern forms.

Hopefully this helps prevent that next awkward moment when someone has trouble explaining to their family or friends how a transmission that can't actually select its own gears is being referred to as 'automatic'. Don't be that guy! Your LSAT scores will thank you later.

...and yes, subjective opinion is one thing, objective fact and deductive logic are something else entirely. This deviation is very often the source of much wasted time and space on forums. People often confuse their right to an opinion with actually being right in their opinion.
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