[Dragonitti]

Originally Posted by blur

Umm dragonitti, I have a few questions. There are a number of scions in FD. Now, lets compare it to grassroots drifting for a second. How much money would it cost me to convert a scion to rwd so I can drift it?

If you were going down that road, I would imagine you wouldn't be doing amateur grass roots drifting at that point. No Scion enthusiast I know, appreciate the Drift cars because they are RWD's, but because they use the same powerplant that comes from the factory (at least they do now after trying "better" motors first). FD rules changed so now Tanner can't use the V8 like a lot of other guys in FD now. Therefore, his 2011 tC will have the tC motor (2ar).

Originally Posted by blur

What's the advantage above, say, a genesis 2.0t, in terms of converting a car's drivetrain to drift instead of just buying a rwd car?

There is none other than preference. Building something vs Buying something.

Originally Posted by blur

How come scion is just about the only FWD -> RWD converted car in FD? Is it because after you dumped thousands upon thousands of dollars into it, it can keep up with the competition?

FD Rules: No FWD cars may be converted to RWD to compete. Only AWD chassis or RWD chassis cars may compete in FD. The Scion tC is an AWD Chassis. It gets it's chassis from it's European cousin the Toyota Avensis which comes in AWD variant. In the US, the tC has the rear components removed and thus is FWD here.

All the cars in FD are beyond an average guys budget, thousands of dollars goes into EVERY car, not just the Scions.

Originally Posted by blur

But then why buy it to drift it in the first place? Why doesnt Fredric Aasbo keep the Supra he drove over the new tube chassis scion he's getting built? After all, wouldnt that be cheaper and easier to maintain during the season? Are you honestly going to quote me and tell me that converting a drivetrain and dumping tons of cash into a FWD car designed for cool kids is better than a tried and proven platform?

See answers above. It's obvious that you were not aware that the tC meets the rules. I think you had the impression like many, that Scion just tossed some cash FD's way in order to compete. But the car is within the rules of FD, not because they gave them $ to be the only one.

Originally Posted by blur

(btw, I may come off aggressive, but don't take it the wrong way; I find you one of the more respectable members of this site, battling people like me on a daily basis lol)

Comes with the territory I guess...

Originally Posted by blur

The new FD rules need to be stricter. No drivetrain conversions, PERIOD. Keep it simple. Maybe then scion will introduce a car you can actually drift, like they do on TV =) That and the Minami course of Ebisu should be featured.

The rules are changing, but do to so many V8 swaps happening. I think they are trying to bring it back to how it use to be.

Originally Posted by blur

Put it this way, a scion badge equates to a new scion version of the concept, which equates to everything scion currently is putting in their lineup, in our precious FT86. AKA Fuel economy over performance, boxy design cues, and sporty over sport. That's just the tip of the iceberg.

Just to show you what kind of crowd buy scions, check out their forums. There one thread, with almost 1 page, about the FT86 II. That's it. They're really excited about this car -_- I read a post from someone who says that he doesnt like the idea of a RWD, his girlfriend drives his car in the winter . . . *facepalm*

I don't get why you would think Scion would be "numb" to having a sports car when they pump money into Motorsports as much as anyone else does currently (besides like F1 or something). So, I highly doubt that your prediction of fuel economy, boxy shape and safeness is accurate. No automotive manufacture is stuck to one train of thought and that's it. The point of a product line is to have something for everyone. In Scions case, I think it's something for every "young" one.

Last part...no need to address. There are noobs in every forum.