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Old 07-07-2017, 07:36 PM   #17
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Originally Posted by CSG Mike View Post
CSG does, but the information is proprietary, and reserved for folks getting engines built by CSG.

It's unfortunate, but this level of information just isn't something that can be given away for free; the R&D cost in building multiple sets of heads and engines approach 6 figures, and is used internally for the folks that support CSG.

http://counterspacegarage.com/csg-fa20-4ugse-gt86.html
I understand not giving away R&D for free but staying 100% silent is a bit extreme, especially when you are a supplier of the product in question.

A simple response along the lines of people finding the stock manifold to be a limitation and the stage 3 cams might be too aggressive for your setup would have been more than enough information.

I am in Australia, far far away from you. So getting engine work done by CSG is quite impractical. My goals also were for a simple build to get some mild improvements. Therefore investing any further in a full build was not the aim at this stage of the project.

Had you have provided me with some information or guidance then I would have been more than happy to purchase the cams from CSG, fit them to the car and provided the feedback with the set up I had mentioned. This information can then be past on to the rest of the community. Something which could have led to a greater uptake on the Piper cams through CSG both locally and state side. Instead I see no benefit purchasing a product from CSG when they are not willing to provide me any information or guidance on selection of the correct product.

I am not trying to be narky but I just don't see the logic in the route you have chosen. Each to their own I guess.
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