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Originally Posted by Gforce
Except that Toyota didn't design the BRZ. And Toyota bought into Subaru well before the BRZ was announced, so not a totally unrelated company. As for the BMW connection with Toyota well, we should wait and see what that unlikely joint venture produces before we get too carried away. Toyota needs no help from BMW in the powerplant department.
The current Impreza and BRZ were developed at the same time and from a substantially modified Legacy platform. The rear suspension and subframe are essentially identical between the two and of different origin to that of the Legacy which continues with its own subframe and suspension until next year when Subaru will be building all of its cars on a new multi car platform. That's when we'll find out what the new BRZ will look like, if there is one.
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WHAT. No. Watch the development videos. They state all of this very clearly. The rear suspension and subframe are not identical as you've said in the past, and they are not essentially identical which is your half step now?
The BRZ is on an entirely new platform, the Impreza never was until 2017, the Global Platform, which no one expects the BRZ to migrate to. You have this entirely backwards.
Also, the twins were jointly developed, this wasn't happening without full support from both companies. Toyota initiated, bankrolled and pushed the project hard in '08 immediately after buying their share in Fuji. They brought the Legacy mule to Subaru! You say they had nothing to do with it but spring rates which ignores the entire development process. The engines were jointly developed to maximize Subaru's boxer engine mated to Toyota's D4S dual port/direct injection. Without that we're driving FB20s at 150 HP. Toyota handled every element of design interior and out and contributed the gearboxes both manual and auto. Development videos at test days had Subaru and Toyota engineers in equal force.
Toyota didn't even contribute spring rates, that's crazy talk. At the last second Subaru changed their mind and changed theirs up! This is all well documented, both in type and video.