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Originally Posted by Gforce
Anyone who knows anything about driving has complained about this chassis in the wet. It is comically incompetent in stock form on even wet roads. It is easy to find opinions to that effect. No change in tires or shocks can fix that problem. As a direct result, the ability of this chassis to handle severe winter conditions is, to put it as kindly as possible, hilarious. In reality, the BRZ just can't handle severe winter conditions regardless of the abilities of the snow tires.
This is why you can drift this car right off the showroom floor. Serious drivers everywhere know this is a fault. The car is slow as a result.
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The car drifts off the showroom floor because the stock tires have low overall grip. When pushed over the line on poor tires a car thats easily controllable vs. tank slapping fishtails = good chassis. Go drive a mustang.
Saying "anybody who knows anything about driving has complained about the chassis"
- not only is this a really immature response, it's complete shit. Please provide us with some examples beaides your own opinion.
Reality is the brz and frs was in many cases were the first car people have owned, let alone first performance car with rwd. It is still alarming you talk about anyone who knows about driving yet you are the one who thinks the chassis is bad, presimably due to your lack of car control. If you can't handle the brz I recommend going fwd camry for you.
You are right michelin will never build another snow tire again just m+s all season, NOooooooooooot. Your problem again is you think michelin making break throughs with using more "poor weather longer lasting compound" while achieving the same times as say an old ps2 well thats has zip translation into snow tires vs all season, its not the same thing or blanket technology.
What you seem to be too arrogant to mention with all your tire bullshit is temperature. Temp is the biggest limiting factor. The difference between a ten below zero and a 25 degree day is enormous, that alone is enough reason for both cateogories to exists. Mud and snow doesnt = ice. Then imagine when it warms up to 65f.
Btw the dws is a horrible tire for dry, anyone using them as such might as well buy a used civic instead. Good way to ruin the car, sloppy.