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Old 03-10-2011, 04:11 AM   #109
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Originally Posted by Dimman View Post
The Honda's 4 cylinder had about 100 more hp than the Z3's. Z3 was not the track weapon that an S2K is. S2K also had no auto so it was a (for the most part) poseur-free car, unlike the Ultimate Posing Machine BMW.

Torque was not likely the factor in the L6 selling more than the 4 for the BMW, it was likely the price expectation/justification part of it.

Honda knew exactly what they were doing with that one. They weren't trying to set sales records. Let's hope Toyota is even half as committed to performance and driver involvement as Honda was with the S2K.


Edit, more on topic...

Watched Road and Track's vid of Geneva. Pretty much the same as Hachiroku's, but the narrator mentioned that they are benchmarking the handling of the FT86 against the Porsche Cayman. If they can give us Cayman handling at the target price point, holy jebus this thing's going to be wicked. 180-200 hp at 2700-2800 lbs with Cayman-beating handling would be amazing!
^This. I would take an AP1 S2K over a BMW Z3 any day. S2000s are amazing at the track (rode in a friend's at the ACS track here in SoCal and nearly shit myself). And knowing that the S2K only comes with manual is a plus as Dimman mentioned above. It's also especially nice when you see a girl driving the S2000. You know then that that chick can drive stick!

Also, I think when most people complain about the 200hp spec, they don't realize that that amount power is actually quite a bit for the WEIGHT of the car, which is supposed to be very light. If the car were to be 3000lbs, then yes, I would complain about the 200hp... but more about being heavy than underpowered. Point is, power-to-weight ratio should be the focus, not just straight HP numbers.
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