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Originally Posted by PandaSPUR
Always assumed it was, thought thats what I read in the news too. Same for the stories where people died waiting for their car to heat up cause the exhaust was blocked by snow.
What is it then? I hope if people are smelling straight up exhaust gasses, they'd notice....
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Originally Posted by Tcoat
People still die from it every year. Yes the cats reduce it but they do not eliminate it. A small enough area with a car running long enough can still do people in. Not near as bad as it was once upon a time but still an issue.
Can be a huge issue for anybody running a car with no cats but we all know that nobody ever removes them!
I laughed my ass off at the badge proudly displayed on the back of my wife's new car.
How the hell is anything "Partially Zero"?
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Carbon monoxide is nasty stuff - and it used to be present in car exhaust in sufficient quantity that it became a relatively common suicide method - you could idle your car in your garage and "shuffle off these mortal coils" in under an hour. Likewise it was possible to have a leaky exhaust system inadvertently kill a cars occupants if they parked with the engine on (like making out in a car on a snowy night).
Modern car pollution control systems and catalytic converters have practically eliminated it from car exhaust (if they are working properly).
Most recent accounts of in car deaths that occur in garages are actually suffocation - the running engine consumes free oxygen and converts it to carbon dioxide - and does not leave enough oxygen for you to survive or malfunctioning exhaust systems. But as Tcoat mentions - it takes a confined space that is sealed pretty well and in takes far longer to suffocate in this manner. There are instances of failed suicides where the cars actually run out of gas before they kill the occupant.
Carbon dioxide is odorless too - and taking a whiff of a modern, unmodified car's exhaust is completely like sniffing the fumes from a carburated, non-catted car from the 60s or 70s.
And for the lawyers: "Do not attempt this at home", "sniffing exhaust fumes can be dangerous", "pollution control devices can malfunction", "seek help if you are depressed".... and I took this thread
