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Old 04-24-2017, 07:48 PM   #1
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MotorTrend's Head-2-Head MX-5 MiataRF vs. Toyota86

Overview


2017 Toyota 86
MSRP: $26,255 as tested: ~$26,854 USD
MPG: 21 city / 28 highway
Horsepower: 205 hp @ 7,000 rpm, Torque: 156 lb-ft
Engine: 2.0 L 4-cylinder
Curb weight: 2,760 lbs
Dimensions: 167″ L x 70″ W x 51″ H
Tire size: P215/45R17
Option(s) equipped:
Fog Lights $599

2017 Mazda MX-5 Miata RF club
MSRP: $32,720 as tested: ~$36,130 USD
MPG: 27 city / 34 highway
Horsepower: 155 hp @ 6,000 rpm, Torque: 148 lb-ft
Engine: 2.0 L 4-cylinder
Curb weight: 2,445 lbs
Dimensions: 154″ L x 68″ W x 49″ H
Tire size: P205/45R17
Option(s) equipped:
Brembo/BBS Package $3400


Why would they not test a '17 BRZ LTD with STI lip kit and PP to make this a fair fight? I dont know

What are your guy's thoughts or predictions? Which car is going to have the best lap time? Better back-roads carver or city driving? Do we have people here who have driven the RF as well as a '17 86/BRZ?

EDIT UPDATE:
Quote:
Originally Posted by WorldRallyB View Post
I'm not going to regurgitate everything said, but i'll include some highlights.

[about the 86]
"Can you explain to me why the front of this car looks like a jack-o-lantern in December"? -Jason Cammisa

"This sounds like two garbage trucks arm wrestling in a dumpster" -Jonny Lieberman:
"Garbage trucks are too big, more like two drain disposals, one gargoyling on marbles the other on silverware" -Jason Cammisa

[about both cars]
"I loves these things, they're like fighter planes, not the heavy bombers" -Randy Pobst

"Picking a winner was tough, we preferred whatever car we got out of last.. until we drove them to work. On normal roads at normal speeds its the miata that turns the drudgery into comedy and puts the 86 in second place" -Jason Cammisa

Jonny and Jason comparison comments:
-86 Rides better than the miata
-86 Quieter than the miata
-maita more fun at 10/10
-miata lots of body roll (duh), lots of movement with lots of control
-86 More roomy cabin, likes the seat and steering wheel adjustment/telescoping
-86 "sit the way you want to sit"
-86 They're not a fan of the boxer exhaust and rumble, evident by my quote above
-86 drives every bit as good as the miata
Randy's comments:
-86 less body roll, likes the feeling of control that goes with it
-86 pulls better at higher rpm
-86 better sense of control
-miata behaves better on bumps, 86 gets more upset with "snap oversteer"
-miata felt planted over a bumpy section on the track
-miata you can change direction better

Streets of Willow hot lap times:

86: 1:30.26
RF: 1:30.39

Jonny tries to beat Randy's times in a Hellcat (yes you just read that) and clocks a 1:40.79

Miata RF WINS Head 2 Head

My thoughts on the video:
I really enjoyed it, very entertaining and for as much crap these guys give our cars in other videos they had a lot of nice things to say. The review did an excellent job capturing my enjoyment i have driving my brz. Based off this video, what should you do? Buy a BRZ PP!

Last edited by WorldRallyB; 05-31-2017 at 11:17 AM.
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