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Originally Posted by Tcoat
There is no torque dip between 2,000 and 3,500 RPM so what is the problem? I still do not understand how something that is barely even there is ruining the driving experience. It should not even take a conscious effort to avoid driving in that range.
Place those obstacles at set positions in my hallway and since I will know they are there I will walk around them with zero loss of time. After I have done it a few times I will not even notice them anymore so they would be a non issue.
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We all have different opinions and thresholds on what is (or is not) an issue for us. I have a few rock chips and dents on my car. For some people this would be a big deal, while others (like myself) we just accept it as part of life, and it doesn't bother us.
In this case, the torque dip doesn't bother you, but for some people it is a big ole' pain in the butt. All things considered, it is one of the most troublesome aspects of the stock car/tune, and therefore a large percentage of folks see it is as a hindrance. Whether you agree with the torque-dip complaints or not, it is a popular complaint (so there is some merit to it).
I'm thankful that I was able to conquer the dip with some modifications, but I can empathize with folks who otherwise have to stick with the stock car and tune. It's certainly MORE fun to feel the torque consistently, and it isn't hard to achieve with some tuning work and header change, so many folks see it as an area where Subaru/Toyota could have done some work.
Now... with that being said, there are certainly mechanical reasons why a torque dip is in place. It doesn't just exist because the stock tune is inefficient. But that doesn't mean it doesn't subtract from the experience for a sizable number of people. This IS a car lovers forum, so anything that seems out of place is going to get brought up a lot.
Either way... I suppose its a mute point, given that we all have our own opinions. I just don't like to see folks getting bashed for complaining about the dip.