[ichitaka05]

Originally Posted by Maxim

And 100 less horsepower. And a COMPLETELY different driving experience. And rear seats.

Basically, it's going to be a slightly lighter, slightly less powerful RX-8, minus the rotary engine and half-doors.

I'd expect the performance figures of the car to match up quite nicely with the RX-8. The car has less horsepower, but more torque (if the 200hp boxer-4 engine is indeed accurate), so it will have a bit less top end but be easier to launch, resulting in very similar 0-60 times.

An intake/exhaust treatment and maybe a tune and you're looking at a low-14s car in the 1/4 mile. So it's not going to be SLOW. It's just not going to be jaw-droppingly fast like one of the new 5.0 mustangs. It's also not going to have a chance in hell of beating one around a track (MAYBE a very tight autocross track, but even then, the new stangs handle...)....though it will probably be more fun to flick around in real world conditions.

Definitely still interested in this car....though the price is going to be a big issue for me. If this thing costs any more than my current car (a GTI), I'm not interested. With all the options I got, I paid 25k out the door. I better be able to get this car for that or no deal. If they offer a turbo model I'd consider breaking 27k....But frankly, if I can go get an AWD WRX with the turbo boxer for 25k, I think I should be able to do the same with this car. 265hp would make this much more palatable to me. Not because of the power, but because of how much easier it is to make MORE power from a turbo mill. My 2010 GTI has just over $1000 invested in mods and is putting down 253 to the wheels....compared with a stock 200 at the crank. Turbos are just nice like that.

Hope it's not a Scion....they put really horrible sounding audio systems in their cars.

Sorry where you got that idea? I don't remember Subie making engine that is setup for RWD layout.

Yes, I do agree and hope for that... but still it's a speculation.