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2013dgmbrzdood · 02-23-2017, 02:47 PM

First off I don't see how you could even have a debate here if you are really concerned with snow / bad weather. The brz simply doesn't compare in anyway what so ever.

For me the bottom line is the brz is such a low center of gravity and so light it's a lot of fun right out of the box. For a more inexperienced driver it is plenty "Fast". This idea the brz can't handle anymore power or it will explode is silly. People act like the sti is some demon with a million horsepower. That being said a lot of people say oh I drove an sti and it felt big or heavy, no it's because it has hydraulic steering (man steering) and trying to say it's imprecise or a not sporting is full of it.

I think saying the ej25 is a dinosaur is stupid. It still makes double the torque stock that the brz makes and can make triple the torque with stock internals and no detriment to reliability. Most of it maybe an old design but so what, look at the low end torque and power it provides when turbo'ed. To clear up another thing if you think the brz engine na is more responsive than a hopped up ej25 (assuming no monster turbo) you are on the far side of wrong. The BRZ engine is a great amount of power to drive the car fast as can go, it however will never ever ever thrill you or feel fast in a straight line 150 lbs tq simple as that. The magic of the brz is in it's chassis and to have a good time one really doesn't need anymore than that.

Your best bet is to talk with some enthusiasts in person because posting here will just get you a bunch of biased people posting because you insult them by suggesting their car is slow or a different car can be just as great or more suited to your needs.

One last thought the brz engine is wonderful and serves a great purpose and nothing more is needed to make the car marvelous. There is however imo room for higher horsepower car with more heavy duty equipment. The brakes and PP are a step in the right direction. For me it really is about the performance parts that go hand in hand with longevity, thats what excites me.

02-23-2017, 02:47 PM	#21
2013dgmbrzdood Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Drives: 13 brz limited Location: California Posts: 43 Thanks: 0 Thanked 17 Times in 11 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	First off I don't see how you could even have a debate here if you are really concerned with snow / bad weather. The brz simply doesn't compare in anyway what so ever. For me the bottom line is the brz is such a low center of gravity and so light it's a lot of fun right out of the box. For a more inexperienced driver it is plenty "Fast". This idea the brz can't handle anymore power or it will explode is silly. People act like the sti is some demon with a million horsepower. That being said a lot of people say oh I drove an sti and it felt big or heavy, no it's because it has hydraulic steering (man steering) and trying to say it's imprecise or a not sporting is full of it. I think saying the ej25 is a dinosaur is stupid. It still makes double the torque stock that the brz makes and can make triple the torque with stock internals and no detriment to reliability. Most of it maybe an old design but so what, look at the low end torque and power it provides when turbo'ed. To clear up another thing if you think the brz engine na is more responsive than a hopped up ej25 (assuming no monster turbo) you are on the far side of wrong. The BRZ engine is a great amount of power to drive the car fast as can go, it however will never ever ever thrill you or feel fast in a straight line 150 lbs tq simple as that. The magic of the brz is in it's chassis and to have a good time one really doesn't need anymore than that. Your best bet is to talk with some enthusiasts in person because posting here will just get you a bunch of biased people posting because you insult them by suggesting their car is slow or a different car can be just as great or more suited to your needs. One last thought the brz engine is wonderful and serves a great purpose and nothing more is needed to make the car marvelous. There is however imo room for higher horsepower car with more heavy duty equipment. The brakes and PP are a step in the right direction. For me it really is about the performance parts that go hand in hand with longevity, thats what excites me.