[WolfpackS2k]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

If you want to play with the stats until something works then that is fine.
The industry standard for comparing acceleration times is 0 to 60 and that is what was applied to the minivan is faster statement.

I've never argued that a minivan is faster in a 0-60 acceleration run. And yes, 0-60 is somewhat of an industry standard. But where 99.999% of Twin owners will encounter a minivan is on a PUBLIC ROAD. And on a public road, the most relevant acceleration statistic is 5-60 mph. You simply cannot deny this. Whether that matters to Twin owners is not the argument. Just stop denying reality here.

Originally Posted by serialk11r

To be very clear, I was not talking about high end SUVs powered by V8s or FI engines. A typical 3.5L V6 J35Y6 or 2GR-FE in a 4200lb Odyssey or Pilot or Sienna vs. a FRS with a heavier driver is pretty close. You have 280-290hp peak (so 45% more) and 55% more weight with one driver, but the V6 engines are much stronger in the midrange.

I like to step hard on the throttle because that's what you pay for when you buy high octane gas, but I notice that basically every single minivan is matching my acceleration unless I rev well beyond 4000rpm. I don't think Norcal soccer moms are particularly lead footed either.

All that said, I did buy a faster 2ZZ MR2 Spyder which is Cayman fast, but not Corvette fast. That purchase was more for the glorious deafening engine noise rather than the speed though. If the FRS didn't sound so terrible I probably would have kept it.

Gets it.