[Vracer111]

What does having traction control off ultimately have to do with hitting a curb? If traction control was on, the front end could have just plowed into the curb... and that would be more expensive. I had a situation where was turning in under an overpass and aparrently hit a swath of loose dirt like material that was spread all over the road - right in the middle of turn in. Was in the outside lane which has a curb running along it, and immediately when felt the front end start washing out I got on the accelerator and initiated a serious rear correction, and JUST cleared the curb while staying in the lane. If the traction/stability control systems were on, the front end would have most definitely washed out completely and would have ended up smacking into the curb - there was no distance to allow the power to be cut and front to understeer back into grip and clear the curb. And if I have a choice, its going to be the rear I'd want to make contact with curb, not the front.

The traction control on the FR-S is not that great, the Nissan Frontier I recently picked up has a better and MUCH more useful TC and stability system. In the FR-S, I drive without the traction and stability system on 100% of the time - the car is much more predictable and responsive with it disengaged.