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Originally Posted by brianc
I'm probably going to get bashed for this but we've already drag raced an AP1 vs a 2013 6MT FR-S. Not even comparable. S2000 won everytime.
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Of course! I wouldn't think any reasonable person would expect otherwise. 12.7 lb/hp beats the hell out of 14.7 lb/hp, natch...
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They are both slow on the street. They are both torqueless until you take it up to high revs.
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For me, on the street, the two are equal, perhaps with a slight nod to the FR-S/BRZ. I practically *never* VTEC on the street, generally keep it below 5000rpm. At the track, never below 6000, but on the street I don't see any need to drive like an ass for no good reason (can't reasonably push the envelope anyway, so what's the point).
In this mode, the FR-S/BRZ is at least *equivalent* to the S2000 in terms of how fast it feels.
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The S2000 actually seems quicker because the gears seem shorter.
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Basically, you can continue to wind out the S2000 when you have to upshift the FR-S. But again, if you're not going to be taking advantage of the tremendous rpm range of the S on the street, the two feel very similar!
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Stock for stock though. I feel like the FR-S has much better suspension. When they are both modified. Different story.
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IMO, the FR-S suspension felt as good as, *maybe* slightly more taut/controlled, than the suspension in my '01 S2000 with 148k miles on it. Which is a compliment!
If I didn't feel like the S still had some good miles in it, and if my wife didn't need a new car before me (I just got the V8 FD last year), I'd be getting an FR-S right about now to replace the S2000 without looking back. It feels that good.