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Originally Posted by gramicci101
So stock was 156 hp/170 Nm, and pull 4 was 175 hp/190 Nm with a catless UEL header and tune. You gained 19 hp/20 Nm overall, and a lot more area under the curves. I'm not sure I understand the problem.
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The problem is that
without the catless header and just a tune I got 170-172 hp (the one used here is not a fluke, all my previous pulls on flat road was in that ballpark).
Sure there is under the curve improvements but only below 5000 rpm. I track the car, I was hoping to see improvement on the top as well.
I was hoping someone would post that Virtual Dyno is shit, but seeing the consistency between pulls I don't believe it can be discounted totally.
I don't want it to sound like I am bitching. Rather, I just don't get it! I run 5 deg more timing up top. What's wrong here??
Also, I am not bitching about the tunes. Rather I'm surprised how good and sorted Wayno's most recent stg 1is. If it outputs similar numbers at the top with 5 degs less timing that's truly astonishing.
The gained torque in the dip is nice, but I'm not sure I'm going to bother putting it back on next time I have to take it off for TÜV inspection.
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Most UEL headers and tunes will get you in the 175-185 range. If you want to push 200 hp you need one of the nicer EL headers such as PTuning or ACE. Or go with E85, but I don't know how feasible that is where you are.
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Exactly, I was expecting to see 185 hp. Since the Gruppe S/Tomei header supposedly is regarded as one of the better UEL headers. That's why choose that.
I seriously doubt the 200 hp claim of the Ace headers. That's nice marketing from CSG. Probably they are max 190. 5 hp more wasn't worth more than double the price for me.