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Old 01-19-2017, 08:59 PM   #571
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Originally Posted by Irace86 View Post
I'm running bp 10's for a while now. At first there was lots of squeal but there is much less since performing a second bleed in the system. Apparently I hadn't bled the system completely, most likely because air was trapped in the ABS system, but after activating the ABS over a few months I was able to bleed out more air, and now there is minimal squealing. I will likely perform another bleed in a few months to just make sure.

I have a few newb questions, maybe @Cartman or someone can help:

1. Are these pads normal pads, sporty street pads, street/track pads or entry level track pads? Considering they have BP 20's and 30's and stuff, I'm guessing entry level track pads, or some type of street/track pad.

2. Are most people who daily drive their car running a track or street/track pad, or are they running a normal pad like OEM style on the street, and then swapping for the track? I am looking to probably get some OEM style pads for the street.

3. Again noob question, but is it normal to get poor braking feel in the wet with bp10's (if they are track pads) or with track pads in general? I feel like these pads stop worse than OEM pads in the rain on the street. I have never really got them hot in the rain or used them on the track in the rain, so I don't know how much they change with heat, but I can tell improvement once they begin to heat up, yet like I said, I don't know if they equal dry weather performance or equal OEM pad abilities in the rain.

4. Does anyone make an OEM style (material) pad for these calipers? I saw @Cartman you said I could run a larger pad with the Ferodo 3116 pads. I'm guessing these are track pads; I need to see if they are medium or heavy use pads. Do you have a suggestion for a OEM/street pad of the larger dimension?
1) I never used the BP10's so I can't really help you there, but I had the BP20's and was not a fan of them. The felt like they had no bite. Both BP10 and BP20 are considered hybrid street/track pads.

2) I switched to EBC greenstuff for DD since its the only pad I've been able to get that doesn't squeal like a raped monkey, but it did require the use of the Wilwood shims plus the included anti squeal tape from EBC. I plan on testing Ferodo DS1.11 this year for the track along with an old set of Raybestos ST45 I have for the rear.

3) I didn't use the BP's long enough to experience them in the rain, Sorry I can't help on this. But I have not noticed any change in braking performance with the EBC pads in the rain.

4) I think EBC has almost all their pads in 7420 size, but I've read that the Carbotech 1521 are excellent pads for DD from people running the AP racing kit, which uses the same wilwood pad shape. As far as running the taller pads, I would advice against it. After 3 events I noticed that my pads are wearing much faster at the top than the bottom (e.g. Pad material -> /| <- backing plate), most likely due to the fact that the pistons only touch the upper half of the pad, also could be the cause of why I could never get them to stop squealing.
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