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Old 01-07-2017, 09:25 AM   #536
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Originally Posted by steve99 View Post
shiv initially zeroed them all out in the base oft tunes, i think he put them back in in the latest ofh specific maps.

you would rearly need to be looking at individual cylinder knock counts to make your own specific tables, i suspect waynos are based of the ofh specific tune
Searching for timing compensation per cylinder led me back to this thread. I wonder why Shiv zeroed it out in the most recent OFH tune but kept it in the regular stg 2 UEL tunes?

Otherwise, Wayno uses the AVCS from the the OFH tune. Total timing (base plus KCA) on the 102 tune is not significantly different - give and take (some areas more, some less). Except above 6800 rpm and load 0.9 and in 0.6-0.7 load, lower rpm range, where OFH has significantly more.

- I'll might add the timing difference above 6800 rpm to the Wayno 102 tune, but I am not sure if I should leave the TCPC or zero it out?

- Or I could start with zeroing TCPC out (without adding timing) and see if it makes a difference first.

- Of course, I could also just leave it all alone and enjoy hassle free timing.

Decisions, decisions. The bite of the damn optimization bug is annoying. Does anyone have the antidote?

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Originally Posted by Indie77 View Post
Hey folks,

I'm new here, and first off, thanks to all the people who make this such an informative place. Noobs like me wouldn't learn a thing without you, much obliged!

I live in Germany and run my 2012 manual on 98 ROZ pump gas, which wikipedia says is about equivalent to 93 AKI in our region. I've used Wayno's Stg1 98 v111.2.US.Stg1 A01G ROM, did the closed loop learning phase and then some 3rd gear WOT pulls. Data is here (first one in 2nd gear, was too excited to shift )

http://datazap.me/u/indie77/log-1481...1-8-13&solo=13

How's that looking? I'd be very glad for feedback!

Thanks in advance

- Indie77
A bit late reply. Judging from the LTFT, it didn't finish initial learning. From so far it seems slightly on the rich side, but not far off. You could easily use the 100 octane tune for German 98. As you can see in your log, there is not even a hint of knock.

Do a 3rd gear log after 3-500 km normal driving (don't baby it, but don't drive all 500 km WOT either) and recheck and that it didn't change LTFT significantly and AFR stay in the ballpark where it was in this log. My guess, though, is that it will go richer above 5k once it finishes learning, it did all the time on my car with the old tunes. However, if it doesn't and you don't want to mess further with it, what you have is fine.

If you do want/need to change it further, PM Wayno for the updated tunes. They are much better both performance-wise and with regards to learning with much more predictability. And don't forget to send Wayno a donation, so he continues doing work on the tunes. Remember donation is not paying for a product, but appreciation of the work that was done in the past. Work, that you are already enjoying with the 111.2 tune.
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