Sounds like the delivery times (for PP at least) are still very wishy-washy.
Yesterday I ordered with PP and the sales guy told me it could be 12-16 weeks from now (though he was saying that even if I were to order without PP
). Other dealers' salesmen were giving me ranges (at least without PP) of at 30-60 days. Silly me thought I'd be able to get mine by the end of Jan. at the very least. Oh well.
Could be I'm just at the top of the queue now since I ordered so much later than most of you, and so now I'll have a much longer wait. Guess we'll see.
My salesman did tell me he should have the VIN roughly 30 days before delivery, and that'd be when we could deal with the finance office and stuff (I already have a final price contract/agreement) to figure out financing rate/term.