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Originally Posted by neutral
Run a modern day car headfirst into a solid wood telephone pole at 20mph and then tell me if you think I was going faster 
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After driving my FR-S for a few weeks.. Just having trouble grasping loosing the rear end at that low of speeds... unless you were flooring it in first on that turn... even when its wet out there is a good amount of grip before it breaks loose on turns..
but yup modern cars and their crunch points..