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Originally Posted by SUB-FT86
I understand where you're coming from but I wont be buying this car. You're also right about this car being geared more towards the AE86 crowd. That's not what I want.
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Well, I don't see how you'd expect this thing to not cater to the AE86 crowd since the name is FT-86 for the Toyota version... I mean it's supposed to be the successor to the AE86.
I'm glad it's not using the 2.5L or boost, for a lot of reasons. For one, it's just not the soul of an AE86. The AE86 was a low-horsepower car that was fun because of its lightweight, not because of zomgzboostedtorquez. It's kinda pointless to expect a Supra out of an AE86. Since the Subaru/Toyota versions will be similar, don't see why you'd expect something different. If you're wanting boost and torque, why not just get a WRX/STI?
As far as sub-250 horsepower cars not being popular, I think if anything the opposite will be true. As the economy recovers, fuel prices will start going back up again. Already the demand for cars is overwhelmingly for fuel economy. That favors smaller, more fuel-efficient engines, not another boosted 2JZ. Hence fuel economy, not brute horsepower numbers will be on the minds of potential buyers.
Without getting into much specifics, I'll just say I'm glad that they picked this powerplant, because I think it's a pretty good one.
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Originally Posted by Jordo!
There is no market for a slow pretty econobox any more, and this will be priced between the base Mustang and base Z, and needs to perform somewhere between them to sell.
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Where do you even get this from? The exact opposite is true. 370z sales have dropped and dropped over the years. The switch from 350Z to 370Z didn't help at all. Annual sales by year:
2003 - 36,728
2006 - 24,635
2009 - 13,117
2010 - 10,215
2011 - (sales so far are LOWER than 2010)
From a market perspective, it's clearly a bad idea to pursue the 370Z. "Econobox sales" (aka Civic) meanwhile have been very strong in the past 5 years. So the reverse is true. Econoboxes are here to stay, people are moving away from high-performance machines.