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Old 07-29-2016, 07:14 PM   #1044
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http://blog.caranddriver.com/toyota-...thing-we-know/

A 4 cylinder Supra just sounds wrong to me...
Shame they're not sourcing the B48 from BMW, stout unit, good power, 250hp/295ft-lbs from the factory in the 7 series, rumor is BMW rates at the wheels too. Lower spec versions have been tuned to 300+ hp crank est. That's almost competitive with the MK4 Supra off the showroom floor. It would also help cut production costs to share the same base powertrain. Not to mention BMW puts that thing in the Mini Cooper, it should be one of the cheapest DIT-I4's on the market.

Does Toyota have a 4-banger that comes close? Or at least isn't a dog?

The only thing I can find is the 8AR, DI Turbo they use mostly in Lexus...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_AR_engine#8AR-FTS

Slower 0-60 than an 86...

http://www.caranddriver.com/lexus/is

Edit: From the truth about cars.

http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/201...ly-goes-turbo/

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On paper, 241 horsepower sent through an 8-speed automatic to the rear wheels and pitted against 3,583 pounds of curb weight shouldn’t be much slower than the 240 horsepower, 3,370 pound BMW 328i. Unfortunately, we don’t drive cars on paper. In the real world, the IS 200t is a full 1.1 seconds slower to 60. We lose the first 7/10ths before either car hits 30 miles per hour. This is due to a few factors.

The effective first gear ratio of 14.8:1 in the IS 200t is essentially the same as the 14.4:1 in the 328i, but BMW’s 2-liter turbo produces maximum torque across a rev range 30-percent broader than the Lexus turbo mill, and ZF’s eight-speed has a lower second gear. Between 30 and 60 mph, the BMW gains an additional 4/10ths on the Lexus thanks to the broader powerband and the fact that BMW’s small engine likely puts out more than 240 ponies.

While the IS 200t’s acceleration is a notable improvement over the IS 250, it’s a very conservative improvement. These numbers also mean that the 200t more directly competes with the 180 horsepower BMW 320i, which accomplished the same task 3/10ths of a second slower than the Lexus yet withdraws four-thousand fewer dollars from your bank account.

Fuel economy is another area where paper and reality are at odds. According to the EPA, the 2016 IS 200t scores two miles per gallon better than the 2015 IS 250 on the combined cycle. In my tests, though, the two were essentially the same. The 2014 IS 250 beat the EPA score by two miles per gallon while the IS 200t fell just shy of the 26 mpg total.
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