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Old 07-29-2016, 02:46 PM   #117
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Originally Posted by cf6mech View Post
Well then you need to educate yourself,....dont take my word for it,.....listen to an expert............
http://www.vorshlag.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8275
I read the article. Nothing to educate myself. It contains known issues about the FI solutions on our cars and then makes a general critic on the boxer design. These guys don't know anything about the history of these engines. The boxer engines are well tested in racing for decades and they proved that can be very competitive comparing to other engine designs. Then they start discussing about weight savings and how to gain some weight from the exhaust, wheels, flywheel. These are solutions that can be used even in the stock car. What is the relationship to the engine swap? Of course, they never give the before and after overall weight of the car. I wouldn't even dare to question where is the new center of gravity.

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I just skimmed through the two pages, but I did not see anything about how the V8-powerd car handled compared to stock, much less an "expert" opinion on said handling.

They added 134lbs, and the corner balance is over 52%.

Neither of those compromises are a train wreck, but they are compromises.

I have driven a couple miata's with V8 swaps. Maybe they were done wrong, but they no longer handled as well as a stock Miata.
Exactly!

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Do a little research, the LSx (x being variant) is a well thought out, modern design as well. Aluminum block and cylinder heads in a compact design with large displacement.


Basically why the engine is swapped so much over offerings by other companies. It is compact, reliable, and lightweight.


FA20 dry supposedly weighs 377 lbs based off a thread I found on ft86club.
LS1, there are multiple quotes depending on where you look.... but fully dressed with oil around 430 according to hot rod magazine.

I already did my search and know some things about the LSx engines. I didn't want to mention this, because I preferred to ask a person who did the whole swap thing.

From my point of view, his car is not anymore a FR-S/BRZ. Not so much for the reason of the more power, but for the reason that it is not focusing any more on the handling aspect. Whoever reads my complete reply, he'll understand. At least this is my personal opinion.


I am not saying that it is not an interesting project, but it is something different.

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