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Originally Posted by Tcoat
Comparing an 86 to a new gen Pony Car is like comparing apples to kumquats! Yes, the old gens were wallowing boats but neither the new Camaros nor Mustangs are anymore. They are starting to actually become the "sports cars" that they have so often been called.
I know that many feel this is a track based forum but I still chuckle as soon as the whole "but on the track..." thing starts. I have no idea what the percentage of time on a track (these cars that actually see one ever) but bet there are so many zeros between the decimal point and the number it is silly. On the street all the HP and goodies of the SS or GT are wasted most of the time no matter how good the driver is. The 86 has the advantage of it can actually use 80% of it's abilities instead of about 15% (there is a valid reason for all the Mustang crashing memes). The bloody thing was built to entertain and engage the driver in a different way than the Pony Cars and it does that very well. People that want Pony Car performance and style of driving should have bought one.
Now as far as the whole "put this that or the other engine in it" thing goes that is a whole different story. Those engine swapped, reinforced, huge wheeled, heavily modified Frankenstein's that are getting Pony Car drag times are NOT fucking FRSs or BRZs! They are basic components of them yes but they no longer should be called the name. The minute that engine comes out and everything is swapped to support the "upgrade" it is now just a Twin shell on a whole new platform.
I love my car but am under no illusions that it will ever EVER compete with the likes of top trim Camaros and Mustangs driven by another driver with the same level of skill that I have. It wasn't meant to compete with them from the start and anybody that thinks it was needs to wake up.
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Hmmmm! Interesting, have you driven a V8 swapped twin?,....I have, everything good about the car and the reasons that I bought it in the first place became that much better, like 3.7 Liters and 200 crank horsepower better (stock LS1 Sans headers and CAI, but oh the possibilities)...and no it doesnt handle any better or any worse but almost exactly, if not exactly the same.....total drive train weight gain for me was right around 100lbs..most of the weight gain is from the heavy Tremec compared to the Aisen which actually sits pretty far back neutralizing the added weight, same weight bias confirmed by scales......re-enforcement for upgrades....really?..you mean like the 20 lb lighter one piece aluminum driveshaft compared to the two piece metal anchor one?..Speaking of anchors, do you know how much the FA20 weighs? not much goodness going on with that much of a weight penalty to me
......was it wise to spend the time and money for the swap when you could just buy a vette or camaro or stang and be just like everybody else,...another sheep....probably not, but then again Im not a sheep and I love this platform.....now as far as street racing I dont do it, but I use to have punks all the time revving me at stop lights......that doesnt seem to be an issue anymore, my catless exhaust and long tube headers seem to pop a lot approaching stop lights, and sitting next to me you can definitely hear my LS1.