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Originally Posted by strat61caster
With a skilled driver in both?
None. Even an autocross of sufficient size to attract talented drivers will allow the Camaro to showcase it's straightline speed and it's large OE wheels allow a lot of rubber to compensate for the weight in the corners. And with a shit driver in both the Camaro will do even better because point and shoot straightline speed will compensate for the slow corners.
Here's a recent autocross national tour results page, that means mild modifications including brakes and alignment and equal footing on tire compound (both top Camaro and FRS on RE71R's). 2016 Camaro is up ~2s pretty consistently even at different venues.
(Compare the top 'C street' to the top 'F street')
http://cdn.growassets.net/user_files...pdf?1468289548
http://cdn.growassets.net/user_files...pdf?1461593953
I think last years championships had rain so the results aren't directly comparable across classes.
But my point is, show up to your average track day novice-intermediate group, if you can drive a stock 86 at it's maximum potential you will pass all kinds of V8 Pony Cars, BMW M cars, STI's, and Porsche's. Hell even at local events I've finished ahead of all of the mentioned 'fast cars' without anything crazy done to my FR-S (or the Mini I've been in recently).
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Kind of just proving a point. Without a ton of modifications this car won't be able to "beat" a brand new Camaro. Driver skill is obviously important, and I firmly believe that to be the most important thing....however, there is a huge performance deficit between the two vehicles. Comparing an experienced 86 driver to a grouping of beginner - intermediate drivers is not a fair comparison. Most of those guys are just getting used to the track and its rules and probably have instructors riding along telling them to let others pass.