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Jason@Nameless · 06-21-2012, 09:40 AM

Hi all,

My name is Jason Griffith and I am the Engineering Director at Nameless Performance, Inc in La Center, Washington. We've been tearing away at a wide variety of performance parts for the BRZ & FRS in the last four weeks and I thought I'd weigh in a bit on what we have in store for chassis bracing, namely strut tower bars.

We have a provisional patent filed on our mounting method that we like to call the Lock Lug™, it features a AISI 1020 billet CNC machined tapered cone and fastener which fixedly locks the bar to the studs and chassis at all times, meaning that there is no chance for slip between the bar and the chassis prior to loading the bar and preventing chassis deflection in the directions of movement where it matters. The bars themselves are DOM AISI 1020 Steel, single piece monolithic weldment. Most of our bars feature multiple bar sections which are offset stitch welded together to improve the shear strength of the bar and reduce bending during hard cornering and aggressive suspension bound.

Here are a number of photos of some of the strut bars we have been successful with in the past:

Mitsubishi Evo X:

Hyundai Veloster:

Kia Optima Turbo:

And as far as our qualifications go, we also built all of the control arms (yes I'm hinting at what comes next for the BRZ from Nameless Performance) for the two Nissan S13 Rally Cars campaigned by the Summit Rally Team of Melbourne Australia for the Rally America series this year:

All 155ksi heat treated 4130 tubular arms with faceted shear panels/clevises and 3/4" 38ksi radial load heim joints (when we ordered them from FK Bearing, they asked if we were building a trophy truck). Zero failures (at all, we were chiseling rock chunks off of them with no damage beneath while other teams were swapping out piles of damaged and bent arms) on two cars at the Susquehannock Trail Performance Rally. #28 had a 2nd Place podium finish and #27 went out with ignition issues after 10 stages and a 2 minute first place lead over the rest of the 2WD competition and most of the AWD contenders. SR20's with 350+ft lb of torque at 7-8psi boost, Holinger 6 Speed Sequential Gearboxes and MCA full linear bearing 50mm inverted monotube coilovers. We also built all of the 1/4" 7075-T6 skidplates as well as the full twin circuit exhausts on both cars. Zero service requirements on any of our parts for the entire STPR rally. Looking forward to New England Forest Rally. If you're in the Northeast, you should stop by and say hi to us in the paddock. Just look for the giant red Summit Rally Team tents or one of these cars:

I think you'll be pleased with our strut tower bar designs - they're the best you can buy without welding a bar into the car. If anyone would like to post up pics of the alternatives I can also give a thorough evaluation of the design considerations that the rest of the market has to offer. There are some crap designs out there that amount, effectively, to car jewelry. Very tired of seeing our customers disappointed when we show them how poorly their knock off shiny strut tower bar works. It is pretty entertaining to have a pile of take-off parts here in our shop to demonstrate to people how not to do things....

Also, if you think the factory bars are sufficient, take one off and look at how big the mounting holes are. And that just scratches the surface - if the factory didn't want you to upgrade the chassis bracing, the strut hat studs wouldn't be a mile long. And plus, shouldn't every sports car's strut tower bar have a master cylinder brace? Ours will.

So we'd like this thread to serve as a jumping off point to discuss the various design options as we develop the bars for your vehicles. We have a badass new tubing notcher that should be here in a few days and we are eager to lay out a bar system that features some new design elements that we haven't used in the past like notched, lincoln log style interface between the strut top cross bars and the firewall triangulation bars.

I know a number of you are serious SCCA Solo2 enthusiasts with hundreds of collective years of experience and we would love to hear what you would like to see based on your experience and the demands your previous cars have required. Like we have mentioned in our exhaust threads, we are by enthusiasts, for enthusiasts and we manufacture all of our products in house including a wide variety of parts that most companies simply buy off-the-shelf. This means we can provide multiple configurations and build to order specific options with all of the products we develop. Like I mentioned elsewhere, our 2008-2012 STi TurboBack Exhaust has over 20,000 possible configurations. So lets chat...tell us what you want to see us do, and we'll make it happen in damn-near real time.

Jason

06-21-2012, 09:40 AM	#1
Jason@Nameless Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: '88 BMW 535is Turbo Location: La Center, WA Posts: 287 Thanks: 119 Thanked 822 Times in 156 Posts Mentioned: 52 Post(s)	Nameless Performance Strut Bars: Lets Discuss. Hi all, My name is Jason Griffith and I am the Engineering Director at Nameless Performance, Inc in La Center, Washington. We've been tearing away at a wide variety of performance parts for the BRZ & FRS in the last four weeks and I thought I'd weigh in a bit on what we have in store for chassis bracing, namely strut tower bars. We have a provisional patent filed on our mounting method that we like to call the Lock Lug™, it features a AISI 1020 billet CNC machined tapered cone and fastener which fixedly locks the bar to the studs and chassis at all times, meaning that there is no chance for slip between the bar and the chassis prior to loading the bar and preventing chassis deflection in the directions of movement where it matters. The bars themselves are DOM AISI 1020 Steel, single piece monolithic weldment. Most of our bars feature multiple bar sections which are offset stitch welded together to improve the shear strength of the bar and reduce bending during hard cornering and aggressive suspension bound. Here are a number of photos of some of the strut bars we have been successful with in the past: Mitsubishi Evo X: Hyundai Veloster: Kia Optima Turbo: And as far as our qualifications go, we also built all of the control arms (yes I'm hinting at what comes next for the BRZ from Nameless Performance) for the two Nissan S13 Rally Cars campaigned by the Summit Rally Team of Melbourne Australia for the Rally America series this year: All 155ksi heat treated 4130 tubular arms with faceted shear panels/clevises and 3/4" 38ksi radial load heim joints (when we ordered them from FK Bearing, they asked if we were building a trophy truck). Zero failures (at all, we were chiseling rock chunks off of them with no damage beneath while other teams were swapping out piles of damaged and bent arms) on two cars at the Susquehannock Trail Performance Rally. #28 had a 2nd Place podium finish and #27 went out with ignition issues after 10 stages and a 2 minute first place lead over the rest of the 2WD competition and most of the AWD contenders. SR20's with 350+ft lb of torque at 7-8psi boost, Holinger 6 Speed Sequential Gearboxes and MCA full linear bearing 50mm inverted monotube coilovers. We also built all of the 1/4" 7075-T6 skidplates as well as the full twin circuit exhausts on both cars. Zero service requirements on any of our parts for the entire STPR rally. Looking forward to New England Forest Rally. If you're in the Northeast, you should stop by and say hi to us in the paddock. Just look for the giant red Summit Rally Team tents or one of these cars: I think you'll be pleased with our strut tower bar designs - they're the best you can buy without welding a bar into the car. If anyone would like to post up pics of the alternatives I can also give a thorough evaluation of the design considerations that the rest of the market has to offer. There are some crap designs out there that amount, effectively, to car jewelry. Very tired of seeing our customers disappointed when we show them how poorly their knock off shiny strut tower bar works. It is pretty entertaining to have a pile of take-off parts here in our shop to demonstrate to people how not to do things.... Also, if you think the factory bars are sufficient, take one off and look at how big the mounting holes are. And that just scratches the surface - if the factory didn't want you to upgrade the chassis bracing, the strut hat studs wouldn't be a mile long. And plus, shouldn't every sports car's strut tower bar have a master cylinder brace? Ours will. So we'd like this thread to serve as a jumping off point to discuss the various design options as we develop the bars for your vehicles. We have a badass new tubing notcher that should be here in a few days and we are eager to lay out a bar system that features some new design elements that we haven't used in the past like notched, lincoln log style interface between the strut top cross bars and the firewall triangulation bars. I know a number of you are serious SCCA Solo2 enthusiasts with hundreds of collective years of experience and we would love to hear what you would like to see based on your experience and the demands your previous cars have required. Like we have mentioned in our exhaust threads, we are by enthusiasts, for enthusiasts and we manufacture all of our products in house including a wide variety of parts that most companies simply buy off-the-shelf. This means we can provide multiple configurations and build to order specific options with all of the products we develop. Like I mentioned elsewhere, our 2008-2012 STi TurboBack Exhaust has over 20,000 possible configurations. So lets chat...tell us what you want to see us do, and we'll make it happen in damn-near real time. Jason Last edited by Jason@Nameless; 06-21-2012 at 10:04 AM.