[Dave-ROR]

Originally Posted by ZDan

The system should be able to increase braking at one end of the car even after ABS is activated at the other end. That's the whole idea of multi-channel ABS, no?
Way back when my ABS *did* work, it definitely activated on the fronts first.

I tried not to use ABS though. My street cars I drove on track only had ABS because they were still street cars. Race car has ABS removed so my habit is to not engage ABS on the street cars when on track either. Getting used to using ABS = failure when I switch to the race car lol

For sure, any reasonably designed car that never had abs should lock the fronts well before the rears. That is the critical design criterion. I've always found that to be the case. NEVER locked rears first on a stock non-abs system. Never seen it happen. I have heard credible reports of ABS cars with ABS non-functioning or disabled locking the rears first. IMO, these systems should all be designed to ensure that fronts lock up first even without ABS functioning, but of course that don't make it so...

For the S2k, I've heard stories like yours, that rears locked first. All I can say is I've run mine for years with no ABS, with a variety of different pad compounds (always same front/rear), and on a variety of tires (winters to R-comps), under a wide variety of conditions (dry/wet/inundated on street and track, also snow on the street), and I've *ALWAYS* locked the fronts first (not infrequently, either).

I honestly don't understand how/why people are able to lock the rears first on the S2k.

Under braking at high speed on track you've never locked the rears first? Running hawk blues all around on the chump car locks the rears WAY before the fronts so we run stoptech street pads on the back and raybestos up front and it's much better balanced now.. granted that's a FWD car though so not really apples to apples. Most of my track driving is in FWD cars where maybe it's more common to lock the rears more easily without the weight over them?