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Originally Posted by totopo
I'm going to have to completely disagree with you on this one. The sport trim miatas use bilstein shocks, which are FAR superior to japanese sourced shocks.
Soft suspension actually has better road holding capabilities than hard suspension if you include bumps and normal road surface irregularities. If you don't they are the same. True harder suspension is better in transitions, but you can do that with just anti-roll bars if you wish.
Hard suspension is to prevent bottoming out when you lower your cg.
I think it's more the opposite, that miata engineers don't follow what most everyday people would want in a sports car and instead engineer what they believe is a better track car.
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I'm running STI x Bilstein suspension which is much more compliant and the rear no longer bottoms out over bumps like the stock shocks often do. Road adhesion with bumpy turns when driven spiritedly is what amazes me the most. Worth every penny.
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Originally Posted by atlbrz
Yes and no. A stock miata on a track is not much fun. There is way to much body roll and I have owned all models and have driven the ND. Mazda does design a very good suspension. There is nothing cheap about it. In stock trim, they handle alright, but have to much body roll. Add some better shocks and stiffer springs and they are great. I don't know why Mazda can't install some better coil-overs from the factory. Even the Bilsteins are not very good. BMW and Porsche have good factory suspension without excessively beating you up on the comfort. I have always thought Mazda suspension should be more BMW like.
The Subaru suspension isn't bad. Room for improvement, but decent for a factory suspension. I would like to see some better quality shocks from the factory. Even Sachs or Bilsteins would be a nice improvemnt.
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Porsche runs Bilstein stock and BMW runs either Sachs or Bilstein stock. I've rode in an E92 with Sports Package and it wasn't comfy at all on bumpy roads.
I thought Mazda wanted the Miata to handle like classic British sports cars, but I'm not sure what they are like.