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Originally Posted by OkieSnuffBox
Are you serious? I guess I find that line of logic interesting considering I've never been on a race track in a vehicle that had TC/ABS/VSC/etc. (Motorcycles and Miata's on RComps, some with aero and such)
And the sport bikes were the first thing I ever did a track day on. No aids, no instructors, nothing. Best you got was an experienced friend doing lead/follow at 6/10ths to figure out the line.
I understand a true novice driver may not have the skills to catch/recover from a slide, but that's the instructors job to keep the pace within the students skill set.
I was with WRL for their Momentum School last month. A guy in a new Cayman and newer Miata, wheeling the cars around pretty decently........except they had all the aids on, even after it dried it out.
You aren't learning anything about finding grip, smooth inputs, etc, with all the nannies on.
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True but the instructors are also paid very little (well not paid, discounted track day). And you would be surprised what people show up with on their first ever track days. GTR, Mustangs, Corvettes, 911s, etc. So I can respect the idea behind. But yea, there are plenty of instructors who won't mind if you turn the systems off just have to talk to them before hand and talk about your goals.
I too seen a guy in a Cayman literally STANDING on the systems his rear brakes were smoking. I guess they overheated because I seen him spin.