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Originally Posted by ChrisH
This is exactly, why I think that especially Lambo owners are no sports drivers. And the same is true for most Ferrari drivers. Way to much horsepower, but no driving skills to handle it.
Actually the FWD grew so much because it is cheaper to produce a new "sports car" based on a standard FWD car platform than to develop a new RWD platform for this car. That's all, it's just about money.
I see a very bad tendency today in cars coming up, that go very good in the dry (because this is, where all the magazines do their tests), but are very difficult to drive in the wet. 
Actually there are cars today, that do not have a well developed suspension. Instead the manufacturer just hopes, that VSC will keep the car on the road...somehow. Exactly this is the reason, why you can't switch off VSC in many modern cars. Again it's all about money - to save developing costs for a good suspension.
Have you ever thought what will happen, if your VSC doesn't work properly or just fails?
It would be better to force manufactures legally to have a VSC/TCS/ABS off mode, so they are forced to develop good suspensions.
In addition, VSC together with well developed driving skills can get dangerous, because the system does not compensate for your steering response. The same is true for some other modern assist systems.
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This is exactly my point. The car culture today is stuck in this whole "you must suck at driving or it's no fun if you leave the traction control on" mentality. This is fine if you
have taken the time to properly learn to drive your vehicle in a safe and controlled environment. Problem is is that all these newbs to rwd are jumping into these cars thinking the exact same thing.
Traction control off does not automatically make you a better driver. My point with the lambo/ferrari experience is that driving a track involves way more than just "wheither or not the traction control is on or off". TCS off does not help your driving line. Ie: you dont need to worry about traction control on a track to have fun, if you are just starting out. I dont know how many times I heard people who rolled up in their honda civics to the event asking if they could turn off traction control (in a ferrari no less, that I gurantee no one had experience driving). Meanwhile the actual regulars to the track could care less, and had a great time. Now if you are seasoned professional and want more of a challenge then yes go ahead turn everything off. But for the
99% of the people out there that
think they know what they are doing, do yourselves a favor keep it on. You'll only be wasting your money because you wrecked your brand new car because you
thought you knew what you are doing. Nobody is saying to keep vsc on
at the track, but if anything this thread has shown us is that it might not be a bad idea to a) not showboat on public roads and b) keep the vsc on when you're on a public street.
Learn the basics, develop the skills, move on to more difficult stuff. For the sake of your car, your wallet, and the general public that you may harm including yourself, keep the "fun" at the track and be safe on the public roads. Live to race another day.