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Old 06-18-2012, 06:59 AM   #310
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Originally Posted by R8 View Post
But on the street, I'd greatly prefer those systems to "gloss over" your mistakes before you crash into me. On the street, I choose to not participate in other's driver's training lessons. I want and expect other drivers to use every nanny system they can AND their skills to avoid hurting me or the people I love.
Lemme rephrase: I'd rather feel the traction limits and adjust my inputs myself than have the computer (which has ZERO knowledge of where the car needs to be pointed) cut power or apply asymmetric braking, taking control away from me.

99+% of the driving population is putting you at MUCH greater risk than I am, because they have zero practice controlling a car beyond the limits of adhesion. They are more likely to give stupid inputs that cause a loss of traction, and then when things start to go wrong, they will almost always do the wrong thing.

That is the case here. Nailing the throttle mid-turn is piss poor driving technique, and then abruptly getting off the gas when rear traction is lost (almost certainly what happened) is exactly the wrong response. Either the back end will come around even harder due to unloading the rears, or the rears will regain traction and the car will hook while pointing in the wrong direction.

I'd rather drive with skilled drivers and no ABS/TC/SC nannies than with unskilled drivers and all the best nannies currently available. Unfortunately that only happens at the track...

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