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Originally Posted by NESW20
sometimes. three people can easily lift my 3SGTE, add a fourth when it's bolted to the transmission. five of us absolutely could NOT lift a K24 out of a 2009 accord bolted to it's transmission. we could get lift it about an inch off the ground, and that was all.
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The difference in the Civic's weight over the years is not mainly due to the engine. A K20 adds maybe 100lbs over a D-series engine. K24 adds 20-ish lbs on top of that. A 3SGTE weighs about 100 lbs less than a K24 w/o tranny.
Swap a K20+six-speed into an older Civic, and it's still a good 300-400 lbs lighter than the new Civics. Side impact door beams, reinforced steel crossmembers are what do it, among lots of other safety additions.