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Originally Posted by FT_Monk
So many driving geniuses in this thread; VSC/TSC/ABS are hindrance to their superior driving skills. Of course they don't tell you when they crashed.
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I want to know when I make mistakes, I don't want them to be glossed over by stability/traction control systems.
My crashes: 1996 at Road Atlanta in the 240Z. Damp track, too much speed through the esses, lost it in 5, backed it into an Jersey barrier.
2001 at Watkins Glen: Carried WAY more speed through the chicane and turn 5, used the same brake point into the laces of the boot despite entering at 5-10mph faster. Trail-braked like mad, got sideways, gathered it back up, but by then out of track. Went off, backed it into an embankment. Same corner of the car (left rear). Doh.
A miraculous stability control system might have saved me in both cases, but more likely with current state of the art systems I'd have just impacted with the front right corner of the car instead of the rear left. I just went in too hot in both cases.
Since then, hundreds of thousands of miles (many on snow/ice) on the street and tens of thousands on the track without the benefit of traction/stability controls in multiple rwd cars without incident.
The idea that "it could happen to anyone!" is utter b.s. It *is* possible to develop driving skills and minimize the likelihood of this type of incident.
I'm not a "driving genius", but I do have a developed/practiced skillset that 99% of the driving public (or more) simply do not have because they've never practiced driving at the limit. If you haven't driven a rwd car at the limit, you can't be expected to do the right thing when things start to go bad.
Do autoX, do track days. Way better than having traction and stability controls...