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Originally Posted by neutral
what you said was nothing compared to what the guys on Jalopnik said about me.
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It's a mob mentality over there with nothing constructive in the comments section, though they can be amusing (I LOLed at the "he could've crashed a Mustang V6 for that price" comment).
You made a mistake, but the important thing is no one got hurt. You stepped up and gave an honest account of what happened as a warning to others. That shows integrity and you've earned my respect.
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Originally Posted by thill
I have to say, that while I agree that turning off traction and stability on public roads is not a good idea if you are not experienced with a RWD car, or do not understand how far you can push the car, traction and stability control will also not save you from the laws of physics. Just drive smartly. There is a time and place to drive the car hard. A large empty parking lot is a good place to start.
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Agreed. I knew two guys with Civics:
Driver06: 2006 Si w/out TCS
Driver07: 2007 Si with TCS
07 would drive like a bat-out-of-hell around every corner, treating the accelerator as an on-off-switch, and relying on the computer to keep him on the road. 06 couldn't keep up. We went to an autox together and 07 did well (almost keeping up with my RX8). He talked a lot of trash about 06.
I grew tired of 07's boasting and I pointed out that 06 lacked TCS. He immediately insisted it wasn't a factor, so I suggested he disable it (I had to show him how).
Predictably, his run wasn't clean and he took over 5 seconds longer. Prior to that, he had no clue that he'd been overdriving the car.
Traction control is great if you're driving normally and come around a corner into a patch of wet leaves, sand, ice, or oil. But if you're already driving too fast for conditions, coming across something unexpected can result in an even more severe crash.
It's a good idea to leave traction control enabled on public roads, but to also learn how the car behaves without it (in a safe environment: autox, track, or big empty parking lot).