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Originally Posted by blur
Same thing happened with the MR2, toyota had to neuter it... honestly a simple spring swap with the BRZ springs should reduce incidents like this. Maybe scion should organize free HPDE events for FRS owners, maybe word will get around as the car gets more popular that this car has a kick to it.
And not every car behaves like this at the limit, a RWD with an open diff wouldn't oversteer like that. Not many RWD cars come factory with LSD or such an aggressive suspension tune.
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Blur, please don't take that personal, but there is nothing at all you can do to keep a 200 hp RWD car in a 20 mph corner from hanging the back out, if you just shift down and go full throttle. Otherwise it would be complete crap, not a sports car. And even if it does not happen on dry tarmac (e.g. due to low corner entry speed or high performance tires), than you will see the back coming in the wet.
An LSD actually makes the car better controllable in a drift. But belive me, you can hang the back out also without LSD.
If anyone should be too worried about a RWD car behaving like a RWD car and don't want to learn, how to handle such a car ..... then better buy a Golf.
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Originally Posted by FT_Monk
So many driving geniuses in this thread; VSC/TSC/ABS are hindrance to their superior driving skills. Of course they don't tell you when they crashed.
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Yes, it's possible!
I have stopped doing crashes many years ago - after I found out that it is no fun!
Seriously, wasn't this exactly the point with the 86/BRZ/FR-S? A car, that is easy to drive, even in the wet!!
There are sure cars today, that are a little dangerous without VSC/TSC/ABS , especially in the wet. An example would be the BMW 135i with these poor RFT-tires. Or take some mid-engine cars.