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Old 04-05-2016, 11:35 PM   #754
DAEMANO
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Originally Posted by stevo585 View Post
I'm actually not super impressed by it power wise. It just leaves me wanting more. I will agree when you turn it off and floor it your like wow this engine sucks without it.

The power delivery is also very inconsistent varying alot in weather. Granted I'm in hot FL. Seems like unless I'm under 4k I never even really feel it kick in.
The power bug bites, and siphons all the monies.

Hot, humid weather affects all ICE engines negatively. When my car was N/A I could also feel a difference in power when the weather was either hot or cold. The ESC has not changed this fact, just amplified it. Switching to e85 significantly decreased this effect, but I feel it is probably still present at maximum engine outputs.

Also keep in mind Max WHP gained is about 40-50whp over stock which is a solid gain, and totally appropriate for the cost of the kit (there are some headers that cost nearly that much alone).

Max Torque on the other hand can be anywhere from +60-80 at the wheels right in "the dip" area at around 3400 RPM. This holds strong till about 6000 RPM. The Phantom kit is about making the car a lot more fun on the street (in the RPM ranges where people spend most of their time driving) over making a lot of power at redline.

Compare, same shop (church auto), same dyno (dynapack), same day (8/30/15), same operators - 85 Degrees 70% Humidity. We lost power to the weather on this day (maybe 5-10 whp & 5-7 tq, but still a good basis for discussion.

CA91 w/ OFT tune and Catback Exhaust - Look at that torque dip...


OFT Tune - Phantom ESC 1.0 kit on CA91 w/CBE - Torque curve is flat as a board.



OFT Tune - Phantom ESC 2.0 kit on e85 w/UEL+OP+FP+CBE... my car is an absolute riot to drive.
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