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And back on topic.
When I teach my kids (or grandkids) how to drive MT, I eventually demonstrate shifting with NO CLUTCH.
Once they get the hang of it, I have them try it, but I emphasize that it is not to be used for "normal" driving, just learning.
If you can cleanly shift 1st thru 6th, then back to 2nd all without the clutch (and without grinding), then you have mastered that particular MT.
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