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Originally Posted by Dimman
Twin or auto clutches are moderately acceptable performance-wise. My point is more along the lines that "If you need THIS car to be an automatic, and commuting is going to be its primary role in life (to the point that it affects your transmission choice, seriously...) then why get it? There are better commuting alternatives. Cheap, fun, sporty  can be filled by the Scion tC by those that feel they need an auto. They won't be realizing the difference...
Along those lines, was there an automatic S2000? No. People that wanted a sporty Honda had other options. Same here. Part of the automatic issue, is that if people don't bother to learn stick, can they be trusted with a a dynamic RWD car? Chances are if they can't be bothered to learn stick, they can't be trusted with a responsive car that handles the limit quite differently than the typical appliance. |
You speak great sense. I'll speak only for myself on this. There are a bunch of great small commuter, every-day cars out there. But if I were to buy a new car, it would be an upgrade from my GTI MK5, which is a superb commuter car with the perfect dosage of fun and sportiness, so the new car would have to be better than the VW, the around the same $$$ and look slick. It's a lot to ask for and there aren't a whole lot of options. Hell, I don't even need to buy a new car. Just looking around really.
Hyundai Genesis Coupe is on my "interest-list" and it's pretty much alone there. Don't like the Mustang's interior and the Camaro is....you can't see out of it and the steering wheel actually hurts your hands....
The FT-86, once we learn the real specs and stuff, might be exactly what I'm looking for. If it's way too much of a purist car then that's ok I'll move on.
BUT...if the FT-86 is exactly what I want but only comes with a manual, I'll be happy with the manual. It'll take more than the transmission choices to make of break the deal for me.
Your last point is exactly what everyone hates about all new Ferrari's and other exotics only having automanuals and having to see so many of them wrecked and killed young (it's the cars I'm sympathizing for. The driver shouldn't have learned to drive fast with their checkbook.)
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Originally Posted by Dimman
And in the interest of full disclosure my daily is an automatic AWD Legacy. However my Supra has been over time been 'purified', ABS and power-steering are gone. Traction control is my foot.
The FT-86 will follow a similar progression to purity. It will start off stock, and as time goes, get closer and closer to its natural enlightened state. But it's better to start closer to the final goal than further.
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That sounds like an amazing machine you got there. Just as I said before though, for me I really only have room/money for one car. I'll have to make smart compromises until the big bucks come in hahaha.