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Originally Posted by Allch Chcar
I would suspect close to 200lbs is about right. The Veloster has a semi-independent torsion beam rear suspension which is lighter than a fully independent suspension but heavier than a live axle. For example, the Mustang's live axle weighs around 125lbs, the independent subframe that was used in the 99-04 Cobra was closer to 250lbs. If I roughly guesstimate the weights, <125lbs for the fully independent rear suspension, +25lbs for the driveshaft and associated joints, the 2.0liter boxer is probably at least +60lbs heavier than the 1.6 liter in the Veloster based on comparisons with similar sized engines(Honda L15 at approx 180lbs) vs the K20/F20(240lbs). Than 200lbs sounds at least close. I don't know for certain since the 86 is a mite smaller than the Veloster.
So now you know why I think 2800lbs sounds about right. Obviously my numbers are not 100% accurate as they are based on second hand info but I'm not the one selling the car. The last generation Silvia was 2800lbs or so but it was an iron-block, pre-2012 safety regs in addition to being sold outside the US, and turbocharged. The RX-8 was 2900lbs in 04 and is closer to 3100lbs now but it's a full 4 seater and larger than the 86.
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About the Mustang's live axle vs IRS, I think that part of the extra weight of the IRS was from the fact that the 'Stang wasn't originally designed for it. So the subframe was probably bigger and heavier than it would have been if the unit body was designed for the different load inputs and mounting locations of the IRS.
So hopefully knock off another 50 lbs off the guesstimate. Optimistically 2750 lbs.
Pretty sad how that number can qualify as a lightweight car these days.