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Originally Posted by JRitt

As a general rule, I stay out of other peoples' threads. Our kits were mentioned numerous times in the RR thread both by name and quite obviously as "other leading products." I purposely stayed out of it and didn’t comment, as I felt it was inappropriate.

I'm going to start this reply by saying I like your (Essex's) AP kits. They're well executed with strong R&D. They seem to work and when buyers have problems, either yourself or another person from Essex are responsive. Your passion about the market importantly drives the market forward.

With that being said, I don't think I saw anyone from RR mention Essex's AP configurations specifically. If another member did then I think it's appropriate to retort about your product to the person who mentioned it.

IMO RR referring to "other leading products" was the correct and professional way of talking about where their product fits into the BBK market as a whole. Brembo, Stoptech, Alcon, Endless, other Wilwood configurations, heck even Stillen's AP configurations all come to my mind as "other leading products". Essex does not have a monopoly on good BBKs for this platform.

The reason I asked for some actual data from RR in their thread is because I had a wholesale customer ask me about what their kits do to brake bias. Without actual data, I can't properly comment on that question, and I'm not about to just make something up.

It's reasonable for customers or distributors to expect data from RR and request it. It's not reasonable to do this...

Unless there is something to hide,

Strawman, aggressive, borderline unprofessional. There could be many other reasons why RR releases product information, R&D results, etc on this board and/or on their website the way they have.

I tried to gather the info from their website, but they have 42 different kit combinations for the BRZ. It was a bit confusing, I couldn't find the numbers I needed, and figured the path of least resistance was to just ask. I’m not sure what exactly was aggressive about the question or how it was asked.

This was not aggressive but passive-aggressive. If you intended on buying or distributing any of their products my guess is that RR would appreciate feedback on their marketing materials. As far as I've seen, in their threads RR has engaged each customer's questions actively. However, you are a competitor pointing out deficiencies or asking for more data in a public forum. IMO it was wise for RR to not engage that as it can devolve quickly. There is a good reason for the vendor rules on this board.

I'd simply like to run the numbers and see what is actually happening on the car, so I can speak intelligently about it with customers.

As I've mentioned, RR seems to be actively interacting directly with their potential customers and distributors. I have little doubt that if a customer asking for the same info directly from RR they would provide it directly. I also have little doubt that if a distributor wanted the same information they would also be provided it directly. Is Essex either a customer or distributor of RR products? Or are you asking for info from RR so that you can speak intelligently about it with your potential ccustomers? It doesn't seem to serve RR much to engage with competitors in a public forum. As a matter of observation, when that happens things can go south really fast, and for what purpose? Is the competitor going to espouse or advocate for anyone but themselves? Not often.

These are solely my observations.